Ake, once again I refute the notion that 'causation' is at all relevant, except to those who still wish to stigmatise and (by implication) eradicate. I'll start being interested in what caused my sexuality once I've seen large numbers of heterosexuals do the same.

The whole 'cause' thing is (to interpret it kindly) a red herring, or (to be more suspicious) a strategy of persisting in discrimination.

I don't, by the by, need remindig of the havoc caused by HIV; I'm certain I've lost more friends to the virus than you have.

And as for your worries about homosexuality being 'normalised', it doesn't need to be, as it's already normal. It's what my normal self normally is, every normal day of my normal life.

It's just as normal as heterosexuality, or bisexuality. It is, however, less common.

I'm well aare that I can never persuade you or The Sanity Beast of this view, but on reflection I'm not primarily writing these posts for you. It's more a case that I would hate some poor conflicted soul who is in any sort of turmoil over being gay to read your posts (and even more so those of GfS) without some sort of measured, reasonable, queer response being offered as a counter-voice.