MtheGM - can you not see that rather than 50,000,000 people lining up behind you to support what you say, you and Murray are the only people on this thread who are holding this position

Look sergeant - all the others are out of step except my Tommy

if you insist on maintaining your lone crusade to turn the clock back then the post by Don T will not be the last abusive one you receive (I predict)

So far those good people from the western side of the pond have maintained relatively good humour in the face of your criticism of their "closed minds" - I put it to you that their minds are no more closed than yours and their argument is no less valid than your own. There are shades of opinion on this as to the current meaning of the symbol and as far as I can see yours is based on "this originally meant CND" while theirs is based on "thanks for telling us but we now believe it is used to mean peace"

If this thread can keep going over such a flimsy debate is it any wonder that there was no agreement at Copenhagen

There are actually much more serious matters on the nuclear debate that we could be discussing rather than 'is the logo grey or dark grey'