I tried, folks, I really did try, to wade through this shit. Got far enough that I knew I wasn't going to invest anymore time. A couple of observations.

First, any soul, on any continent, that was alive and old enough to care about the news during the Vietnam/birth of the Hippies/Age of Aquarius, knows damn full well that the it became the universal "peace" sign. Any attempt, IMO, to act otherwise is disengenuous. I do appreciate learning about the CND connection. I was not aware of it, and it lends an explanation as to where it came from.

Second, MtheGM's comment:

I can only say that, if you over there persist in regarding this as just a symbol without known origin or meaning or arrière-pensée intent, then you wilfully reveal yourselves as nothing but a bunch of innocent Yankee·Doodle noodles after all.

Macaroni! - Michael

demonstrates, once again, how some folks over there really just love trying to lord it over us "colonials" as to their feelings of some sort of intellectual superiority. I wonder where they were during the discussion of the Rebel flag and how it evokes abhorence with regard to racism. Mike seems to think that our not getting what the peace sign meant to folks in Europe shows we are just Yankee Doodle noodles. Could I say the same for the English that think the "stars and bars" are nothing more than a symbol for hooligans?

As has been said before, only on Mudcat would we argue about this type of thing.

Mick