This is getting better and better! Thanks everybody for participating, wherever you are coming from. And thanks to the folks that continue to give me data to work with. Just to set the record straight, being born on the same day at the exact same time as another person doesn't mean you will be exactly the same-- didn't I say once already we all have free will???? But it is true that in the case of astrological twins (the technical term among astrologers) it is amazing how often they get married (to different people of course), have babies and do other significant similar things (in one case buying red cars) at the same time (no not to the minute). But astro twins are really pretty rare.

Bill D would like to have a conversation with you sometime that was not limited to the forum... it's a bit limiting /frustrating to discuss such complex subjects this way.

For those who are interested in the Science/"Pseudo"science debate there are some interesting articles available by more articulate astrologers than I. Some are physicists working in the field. Let me know if you want the resources...

I'm off to Chicago for real now...