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Thread #126102   Message #2800625
Posted By: MGM·Lion
01-Jan-10 - 02:35 AM
Thread Name: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
Subject: RE: BS: attempt mass murder Christmas
CarolC - I think you are confusing two discourses. It is true there are nationalistic Muslims who object to western presence in their countries — these are the analogues to the Redcoats, the Raj, the French in Vietnam whom you adduce in your aid.

But there is a separate, small but unavoidably upfront & prominent, hardcore, of which this Nigerian was a part, & who were responsible for 9/11 in USA, 7/7 & 21/7 in UK. the Madrid bombing &c, whose motivations are not nationalistic — they don't even claim them to be, but are quite candid about the fact that they are purely religious: based solely on the Koranic injunctions to Jihad and the Universal Caliphate.

How much support they may have from Islam in general is disputed: there are no doubt many 'mainstream' Muslims who are against them & others for, but how is one to tell in what proportions? But the point is, that it is these, and not the nationalistically motivated ones with whom you, CarolC, appear primarily concerned, that we must be aware of and turn all our attentions to frustrating. Your analogies about Redcoats, Raj, Vietnam have no validity here.