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Thread #125426   Message #2805534
Posted By: Smedley
07-Jan-10 - 03:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Death penalty for homosexuality?
Subject: RE: BS: Death penalty for homosexuality?
I had sworn not to enter this thread again, as everything useful had been said, and it was only been kept alive, primarily, by the incessant bigoted crowing of GfS.

Joe's point does reqire a response, I feel, so here are three thoughts.

(a) The person to taled to, Joe, is not just from Africa but also, as you say, a priest. His views about African attitudes to sexuality are thus filtered through a religious conditioning that also represents a Western 'imposition' on to African culture; your question, Joe, about the relationship between Western & African cultures also needs to bear in mind that Christianity is also an 'import', and one intimately connected with colonialism.

(b) Even though almost all Anglo/Americans, me in this post included, do it, it is risky to speak about 'African' culture or attitudes or beliefs. The continent of Africa contains vast numbers of cultures and their beliefs are not collapsible into a single 'African' viewpoint. Is your priest friend fully knowledgeable about every culture in every epoch on that continent ?('Western' and 'European' are also risky generlisations, of course.)

(c) Whatever we think about this, in recent decades the models of homosexual identity developed in Western cultures have become influential in non-Western cultures (this applies not just to the African context). Those who wish to live their lives as people identifying as 'gay' can look to Western cultures and see templates to aspire towards. I don't deny that this causes conflict, in some cases, with longer-established value systems (by which I emphatically do NOT mean Christianity). But we can't turn the clock back and say to those people 'bad luck, you have to give up your hopes of living in a particular way because of your cultural background'.