===OK Liz. I now regard to you as too stupid to be worthy of discussion. Anyone disagree?
God, you're a nasty piece of work Lizzie. ===

Actually, Royston, I do not entirely agree. I have differed with Lizzie sometimes; & I think she has a tendency to overstate certain cases in a somewhat uncontrolled and hysterical fashion. But I think she is sometimes right, and it is vain & mistaken to assume that, becoz of her tendency to incontinent intemperateness in expression, everything she sez can be discounted.

In this present instance, e.g., all right-thinking people agree that the malevolent element in Islamism who commit acts of terror are but a small — nay, one might even say, minute — minority, frequently condemned by their better-intentioned co-religionists: as in the recent, welcome, Canadian fatwa; but that does not mean that this minority is not a threat, or that they can be ignored or discounted: or that those, like Lizzie, who vehenently draw attention to this ongoing and unbridled threat had not best be heeded, & should not written off as merely hysterical so that any warnings they issue may be ignored, which it appears to me there is a danger of happening on this thread. 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, the murder of one of Rushdie's publishers & the recent renewed attempt on the life of the Danish cartoonist, DID ALL HAPPEN - however much the majority of Muslims, along with the rest of us, deplore that fact: & we would be unwise to imagine that, becoz some Canadian Muslim clerics deplore these acts, & becoz Lizzie is sometimes silly & hysterical [a variant of 'shooting the messenger' IMO], the perepetrators represent no threat & so can safely be discounted. Let us, please not get complacent in an extreme overreaction to Lizzie's often incontinent modes of expression. There is, I should say, a modicum of wheat to be found amongst her chaff.