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Thread #126411 Message #2808256
Posted By: Lizzie Cornish 1
10-Jan-10 - 10:18 AM
Thread Name: Imigration in the UK - Lord Carey speaks
Subject: RE: Imigration in the UK - Lord Carey speaks
I found this post...a good one...on your thread...Hope SOP doesn't mind it being put in here too...
>>>>RE: BS: WalkaboutsVerse Anew From: Suibhne O'Piobaireachd - PM Date: 10 Jan 10 - 07:09 AM
Is immigration destroying British values?
No. Immigration is actually shaping British values, just as it has since after the last ice-age when people first immigrating here. Our Island Culture is, therefore, defined by Immigration and long may it remain so. The process is ongoing, evolving, and British Values evolving with it too. The only people who argue against this are WAV and the BNP, both of whom also believe there is such a thing as British / English Culture and both of whom thing it has something to do with the bourgeois re-inventions of the Folk / Folklore Revival of the past 100+ years. No surprise here, Volks!
We are all of us Individual Human Beings. British Culture is the consequence of what British Individual Human Beings do - whatever our point of personal, geographic or ethnic origin, which is, after all, completely irrelevant to both what we are and where we are. The fact that we're here is the only important one. WAV, on the other hand, argues for an integrated, Christian, assimilated, all-inclusive proscriptive Englishness that not only doesn't exist, but never has existed, simply because the Glad Laws of Human Reality state that it cannot exist - not without military force anyway. His notions of Corporate Cultural Improvement (no doubt to be administered intravenously by good people The Ministry of English Folk at the Cecil Sharp House) are yet more offensive to fundamental individual cultural freedoms than anything done in the name of the imperialism he claims to oppose.
Religion only exists to fuck up individual freedoms & repress instinctive reality' Like Folk, it is a hobby with no objective currency whatsoever; like Folk it is not Our Own Good Culture, but only an dwindling aspect of same for those with nostalgic inclinations. Like Folk, it is nice at Xmas, but come January it's back to reality, like the Go-Penguins we enjoyed on the streets of Liverpool yesterday. Real culture for all - just a shame it's finished with so soon really...
I just keep wondering when WAV will realise just how offensive his insane ideas & pronouncements are to the Glories of Human Reality & how potentially dangerous it is to continue to publish & promote his highly subjective racist & fascist polemic in the name of Truth? A self-serving idiotic truth maybe, but one can only humour such stupidity for so long. Give it up, WAV - come join us in the real world before it really is too late.<<<<<<