GfS, nobody but you and Ake are trying to tell people how they should live.

I haven't hear anyone here on this thread say that a gay person who is unhappy with his or her sexual orientation should not go to a qualified threrapist. All I am saying is that so far such attempts have not been spectacularly successful and have often led to undesirable—in some cases disastrous—results (depression and suicide). Anyone who contemplates "reversion therapy" should be aware of the possible risks and pitfalls before undertaking such a venture.

My quarrel is with those such as you and Richard Cohen who insist that gays should or must seek this kind of help rather than going ahead and living life their own way if this is what they want to do. I am especially disturbed by the fact that the writings of Richard Cohen, a man with no credentials—in short, as self-styled "therapist"—are being used to support the Ugandan atrocities.   And that, even though you may deplore what's going on in Uganda, you strenuously support Richard Cohen.

If two people of the same sex wish to form a domestic partnership—indeed, a marriage—I see no reason that they should not be allowed to do so. And that is the matter that started this whole brouhaha in the Proposition 8 thread and continued on into this one.

Is that so difficult for you to grasp?

And Ake. He keeps talking about the high rated of transmission of HIV among homosexual men, claiming that his heart bleeds for them. And yet he wants to deny them the very thing that would encourage stable, single partner relationships.

Is it any wonder that the word "hypocrite" keeps coming to mind?

Don Firth