*big grin*...Martyrdom is highly overrated,,,,that was the sigh of someone who used to have to explain the point to freshmen in college...and STILL have them repeat the wrong answer on tests...

I suspect it would make more sense to compare the rules of logic to those of math. 3+2=5...always...you don't get to choose whether it will be 4.83 on Sundays after supper...logic is like that. Logic is NOT homey sayings like Abe Lincoln used..that is 'folk wisdom'.

If I say there is a dog in front of the house, we can both go look, since, presumably we both recognize dogs...and can compare notes. It follows that we 'should' be able to identify space aliens the same way...except that we have no standard...and they never seem to wait to be identified..(and, we can look around the area for the dog..not sure where to look for aliens who don't wait){ the problem of investigating, ghosts, elves, spirits, ESP, gods, auras, Tarot cards, etc., is a bit different, since people can't seem to agree on what would count as evidence..[evidence of 'dogs' is pretty well standard..*grin*]

Now, as a matter of interest, I am confident that somewhere in the universe there ARE other intelligent beings...just too big a place not to be....but I am NOT convinced that they could get to us, or, if they could, that they HAVE!...the same math that makes me bet they exist also makes me aware of how hard it is to GO between the stars. Better science than ours? Perhaps...sure hope they quit playing games and drop in and show us before I die.....