Thanks folks, to do a great website you have to be a graphics artist which I am not even close to being. I develop large scale business internal web apps and as such the looks are not important only the functionality. Unlike a web for the world where looks is the dominant factor. Although I know the software like the back of my hand my eye and skill as an artist is very lacking so any suggestions on color or such is most appreciated. The code driving it is quite complex it is Java, JSP, with and XML layer to allow Jerry to edit his own content at home any time he wishes. However my attempt at layout is always far below pro ... so if you do have suggestions I don't take offense I welcome them

Dan