"none of the bills so far offered is comprehensive health care reform. But if they were, you would oppose them even more strenuously than you are the various bills that you keep referencing,"

Wrong again. YOU do not speak for what I would or would not support.

Oh, yeah? Am I wrong? You wouldn't oppose single payer not for profit or a very tightly regulated insurance industry?


"And I have to say that your doing it here in this thread is particularly obscene considering that you are doing it in sight of a mother whose child died because she didn't have access to health care. Really, you should be very ashamed of yourself. "

And when the bill passes, and children still die, will YOU be very ashamed that you supported a bill that lowers the level of care while increasing the cost?

This would be funny if it weren't so stupid. 45,000 people in the US die each year because they don't have access to health care.   No other developed country in the world has 45 million of people dying each year because they don't have of access to health care. Only the US has this problem. None of the bills being considered is going to reduce the quality of care for children or anyone else. The number of people dying for lack of adequate medical care will be drastically reduced.

However, it wasn't your stance on this issue that I was saying you should be ashamed of. It was your trivializing the deaths of 45,000 people each year by comparing providing them with health care to "lemonade fountains and rock candy mountains". And I stand by what I said about that. You should be very, very ashamed.