Said BeardeBruce to CarolC "Or move somewhere with better benefits, or get a job with those benefit. You want the privilidge of staying where you are, and you want the rest of us to pay for your medical care. WHY should over 80% of the nation get MORE expensive costs and less coverage so that YOU can avoid paying what the rest of us pay???"

   Why Bruce, how kind of you to offer CarolC a good job with benefits. What? You say you don't have a job to offer. I thought you must have. How typical of Neocons to ccome up with solutions that aren't based in the real world. Like Doug saying " to find the kind of health care insurance you are looking for, you are going to have to move to a country that provides it. I know you have addressed the problem of moving, but as I see it, that's your solution". Do you really think the rest of the industrialized world is going to let Americans have citizenship just because they got Healthcare right and we didn't. That's why neither of you responded to Bill's repeated request to offer an alternative to the proposed legislation. Conservatives really don't think that thousnds of people dying IS a problem as long as it's not them.
   To date the only Republican ideas I've heard of are allowing us to buy insurance across state lines (if this was law, the lowest standard of coverage in the least regulated state would become the standard of the whole country) and restricting victims of malpractice from seeking to be compensated. Neither of these would significantly reduce what we pay for healthcare or cover a single uninsured American.
   Ironically none of the proposed legislation which conservatives call socialism even considered a single payer system that many countries consider moderate. Americans won't consider such a system because it would require higher taxes, but if you consider no premiums,copays or deductibles most of us would be ahead of the game.
And covering everyone in this age of emerging, very contagious, viruses would be a great boon to disease control in the population as a whole. On top of all that, getting businesses out of the the healthcare business would contribute more to job growth than any stimulus package ever imagined.
    On a lighter note, since the new Senator is anti-gay, I wonder if he gets all icky inside at the thought of thousands of gay men gazing longingly at his naked picture while they, as Doug would say, forever hold their piece.