Mbo - you poor naive romantic soul...I used to feel just the way you do. I must arrange for a meeting between you and my onetime girlfriend, Saucy. She's looking for someone to obsess over.

Then there's the one who was going out with my friend David. Their day to day life eventually became an utter misery due mostly to her own insecurities, but was this girl willing to quit? Nope. She made frightful scenes in public, threatened suicide, got violent, threatened to kill him, threatened to kill her daughter, said she was going to get her biker friends to kill him, kidnapped his personal possessions and held them for ransom, and virtually drove him out of Barrie. All this to get him not to leave her! David is not a man who is easily intimidated by anyone, but this girl had him scared. She finally did give up and is probably driving someone else crazy now.

I also know several women who've been trailed around by obsessive men too, not surprisingly...you hear a lot about that these days.

I've got no objection to long term and faithful relationships...I'm all for them. I just object to being sucked dry by an insecure, insanely jealous emotional vampire with no life of her own. To put it mildly...

Naemanson - I think the term for "involuntary celibacy" might be "deprivation"...or something like that. Or maybe..."desolation row".