I assume, Mousethief, that you are referring to Doug? Or are you referring to both of us?

Ake, that is another debate. Stick to the one at hand. There is much to intertwine, but I am referring to the process of making law and political process and how it applies to Obama's first year. The political reference to the Reagan years simply was to point out the genesis of the current partisan chasm that I believe imperils our flawed but hopeful experiment in governing. Our sins around the world and in our own country are another discussion. Or are you trying to defuse the arguments by blurring the premise?

Mick