"Jim has said that it is the responsibility of folk club organisers to impose standards and tell people to go away and not come back until they can do it right."
I have said no such thing - if you would like to point out where... but won't hold my breath.
I have said that singers who can't hold a tune or remember or understand words should not be put before an audience until they have reached the basic standard of being able to do so.
I have also said that clubs should take on the responsibility for providing help for new and inexperienced singsrs (over and over again).
Snail, on the other hand, has said that the only criterion for putting a singer in front of an audience is that their desire to sing - and he consulted his club committee for confirmation that this was his club's policy
"wanting to do it means wanting to do it well."
No it does not - I've met many 'singers' who are quite satisfied with their own mediocrity and have expressed their gratitude on this forum for the opportunity to do perform at folk clubs.
Wanting to sing is not the same as being able to do so - or have I missed something?
Jim Carroll