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Thread #126347 Message #2825722
Posted By: John Minear
30-Jan-10 - 02:43 PM
Thread Name: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Subject: RE: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Gibb, good to have you in this discussion. I was hoping somebody might bring up the "Codfish Shanty". I wore myself out before I got there! I haven't looked, but is there any solid evidence that it is a variant of the other "South Australia"? It feels like a different song to me. Thanks for filling in the Saunders material, and for the comments on the Parrish material. And Q, thanks for the additional material from Parrish. Charley, I wasn't able to confirm (or disconfirm) Lloyd's comment that L. Smith got her version in the *early* 1880s. It seemed like a bit of elaboration on his part, since she doesn't say anything about "early". Lighter, I appreciate your question about Ted Howard. I did do some searching on him but didn't find anything.
Hopping back up to "Yankee Dollar", Hugill does mention it, right where you would expect him to, in his discussion of Nordhoff, on page 16. This has to be one of the shortest comments in his book: "The tune of this shanty is unfortunately lost; it seems to be of Negro origin."
He doesn't do much more with "Fire, Maringo, Fire Away", the third shanty mentioned by Nordhoff, which I want to take up next.