Well, I think the lack of response to my earlier post indicates that either people read it and agree with me, and thus drop out of the thread, or else they disregard it for whatever reason and then keep shooting arrows around it for whatever reason. It was positive, it gave a starting point for commonality, and it offered non-spirituality-type language to grab hold of huger concepts that often run off the shared-language track.

Or it could just be that this thread is mostly a place for men to hold a perpetual pissing contest.

~Susan