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Thread #126347 Message #2828023
Posted By: John Minear
02-Feb-10 - 07:14 AM
Thread Name: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Subject: RE: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Lighter, thanks for the info on Hugill's source, Mr. Harding. I've wondered about his sources and I'm glad to have more information. Q, thanks for the history information on South Australia. I really didn't have that time frame in place at all. I didn't realize that the "Julia Ann" got there only 20 years after the first settlers! And that Pond was actually one of the first traders to haul stuff to and from there. And thanks for the link to "Old Mohee". Finding these links these days is difficult. And Charley, thanks for "Coal Black Rose". Along with Gibb's "Knock A Man Down", I'm now going in every direction. Good Stuff all the way around.
This morning I'm thinking about shanties that come from the African Slave Traders. Right off the bat I have to sort out the difference between shanties that might have been sung on board the Traders and a lot of songs sung by slaves in the Caribbean, such as "Shallow Brown", and in the Gulf Ports, as well as on the plantations - which are not the same as those coming from the minstrel sources, necessarily. While there seems to be quite a bit of material on slave songs going to sea, I can only think of one shanty that could be referring to the actual slave ships themselves, which is of course "Blow, Boys, Blow" from the "Guinea Slavers" (Hugill, pages 226-227/'61).