Keith:

"I do not. I do make mistakes, but no lies or bullshit"

Bollocks, given how easy it was to google the NATSAL survey, you must have worked quite hard to find your low-grade, self-cancelling, wrongly-asserted claim of the size of the gay community - because you desperately wanted to find the lowest possible estimate, regardless of its rigour - and even then you misrepresented it to us.

You can't be trusted.

"You posted this yesterday "It found 8.6% of male respondents reported having had sex with another man."
Justify that please."

Follow the link to the avert website. 8.6% "Ever had a sexual experience, not necessarily including genital contact, with a partner of the same sex?

"Re dividing by 2, if that is wrong I am sorry, but those percentages are of men in the survey. How should you adjust that to give a percentage of the whole population who are MSMs?"

Straight people (men and women) have sex with each other, so you can measure the risk for any one straight man or woman against the entire population.

As gay men tend to have sex only with other men, there is little point calculating their percentage of the whole population.

You still fail to realise, the very fact that HIV is so statistically rare in the straight population is what makes the 500% increase in new diagnoses of UK-acquired infections so terrifying. The chances of any one straight person shagging another who is HIV+ should be pretty slim. That so many people manage it, can only be an indication of gravely risky behaviour and lethal ignorance.

It is even more shocking when you consider that new homosexually acquired cases are growing at a fraction of the heterosexual rate when the odds of any one gay man meeting another who is HIV+, are so very much greater than for straight people.

Lox has been far too patient with you, but I called you out on this point a couple of weeks ago. I am glad that you now realise that everything you have said here has been wrong.