Royston, the data on BOTH sites used the SAME NATSAL survey, so you should take back that criticism.

It was 8.4% not 8.6%. the trivial kind of error that you were so scathing of me about.
At least I corrected my mistake.

And those 8.4% were not all "having sex" because there was often no genital contact. They were not all MSMs.
The relevant figure was right below.
3.7% on the first survey and 6.3% on the survey you dismiss because it was a smaller sample.
Lie, bullshit, or honest mistake?

We have been discussing MSMs as an at risk group compared to non MSMs
We need to know their percentage of the population, not just of the male population because that is what we do with heterosexuals.

The 500% increase has taken the level to that of an extremely rare disease. The current level of growth means it will still be a rare disease in a hundred years time.
That is why WHO is so sure that an epidemic is not going to happen.

The disease is endemic in the MSM population. The fact that it is increasing suggests the risk is increasing.
That was the conclusion of UNAIDS in that Pink News piece.

If you are going to dismiss expert opinion, you should find an expert who takes your view or tell us why we should take your opinion above everyone who actually know something about this.