No Keith, you are still twisting and turning.

Nobody denies that behaviour is the SOLE factor in THE ACT of HIV transmission between two individuals. You idiot.

The point - all along, the whole reason for this discussion - is that the behaviour of people, whether gay or straight or black or white or African or European, is pretty much as fallable, as compromising, as human as anyone else's behaviour. You can't cast blame in epidemiology, you have to care for and protect everyone in equal measure.

Africans have two principal misfortunes - that HIV emerged there first when it crossed the species barrier and that it emerged in the straight population. There are secondary issues - the effect on sexual networking of mass labour-migration and a higher rate of ulcerative STI's.

In "The West", straight people demonstrate appalling sexual hygiene as demonstrated by the prevalence of other STI's transmitted by promiscuous unprotected sex. It is a matter of good fortune that HIC is not prevalent in that sexual network, yet and hopfeully for ever.

This debate was always about refuting the homophobic and racist assertions that gays and blacks were "dirty" and brought the problem of HIV on themselves.

Those are the views that you have been supporting.