It is a pity that this thread drifted so much, and in it's own way it became three threads in one.
I am against the use of Rise Up Singing - I try and avoid it at all costs.
However, as I say earlier in the thread, I use my own "Aide Memoire" of First Lines - Only when I need to, at sing arounds, but never at paid performance. I will however, have a gig list that may include the First line of each song to get me going.

I also think the new thread about how best to run a Trad. Session/Club is a good thing, but I am so set in my ways I just want the club to be like the ones I used to sing at in England years ago - the Fo'cs'l'e in Southampton being the prime example.

Tim Radford