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Thread #127011   Message #2838169
Posted By: Royston
13-Feb-10 - 11:44 AM
Thread Name: BS: At last a Pope talks some sense
Subject: RE: BS: At last a Pope talks some sense
Well, Ed.T. I didn't know that was in the RC Catechism. I wonder how the Holy Father and so many others managed to miss it. How can we bring their error to their attention?

But seriously, is not the point about religious or spiritual practice that adherents must consider the options - if they see any - and make a choice to stick to?

For a believer, the "right" spiritutal practice is the one they feel, instinctively, brings them to God or as close as possible to that instinctive spiritual "home", a spiritual place of safety and security.

People who find that in their spiritual practice rarely, in my experience, are the type to get concerned with spiritual dogma or any sort of absolutism and generally are the least loudly proselytising.

People of different faiths and practice who have experienced that spiritual fulfilment share an idiom for describing it that cuts through a lot of the sort of internecine conflict that is often assumed to exist between people of differing religious practice.

So transubstantiation, consubstantiation, buddhist meditiation, jewish or muslim prayer. Different routes to the same place. Nobody should feel the need to justify any of it, and if you don't "get it", then it is unlikely anyone could rationalise it for you. If the practitioner doesn't use their experience as a weapon to attack others, what harm can there be?

One of the religious dogmas that bothers me most, is Atheism - as practiced by Dawkins et al. The fervour and zeal with which they strive to prove a negative - against all scientific principles that say such proof can never exist - and attack and demean and ridicule people for generally being good and nice, or for just finding a way through life that works for them, is every bit as disturbing as the worst zealotry that the main religions can offer.

Everyone seeks to find some internal understanding of their place in this universe and for a raison d'etre. Some people get it through religion, some people get it from a sense of their accidental and brief place in an impossibly awe-inspiring accidental universe, some people get it from their own place, daily life and family; and need look no further. Dawkins et al seem to be needing to find their's in a rather different and troubled way. Just my opinion.