Hi Carol...You and I have discussed this on another thread and I know you disagree, but I hope you understand what I'm getting at.

The left are never going to change conservative America by trying to push what is to many people a mad "socialist" agenda, the country is simply too polarised for that to happen.

Furthermore, many "right wing" ideals are worth keeping in any new world. The idea of personal freedom AND personal responsibility should not be thrown overboard; and "socialist" policies presented by a government like the one we have in the UK can be all too easily abused when the people lose respect for those who administer them.

Change, will be a long slow process, both in the US and the UK, but it is completely unachievable by a leader and administration who are wedded to the present social/economic system

I have always felt the the ordinary people of America have it in them to produce a new way of life...they lack the bitter cynicism of the Brits, have retained for the most part, a faith in their God and their country, and a wonderful optimism that they can make anything happen if they just put enough effort into it.

God knows why they have retained these things, given the way they have been treated by successive corporate owned governments, but they have, and these ideals are the base for a new better, more free and just society.

For any of this to happen we must forget all the things which have been set up to divide us and stop electing representatives who are joined at the hip to a system, which over the last year, has been shown to be the ultimate scam....Ake

These things are a basis