There are two separate questions here..

1. Should anyone ever be raped under any circumstances? Does anyone deserve it regardless of behavior? 100% of people here and elsewhere would say no I am pretty sure.

2. Should women dress themselves in a decent manner and advise, scold, and commad young women in their sphere of duty to do likewise? I say yes. I almost followed two very young child teens off the bus yesterday to tell them to put some clothes on..one had shorts on skimpier than my underwear (TMI I know..) and she could not have been over 13. What women do in a public place, like public transportation etc. where there is close contact is very important to the safety and stability of society and we have responsibilities to not act dumb about sex as if we didn't know about it and what provocation is. A 13 or 15 year old probably does not realize what she is doing entirely, and they have to be protected and people have to be protected from their behavior.

Not every filthy drunken man on a public bus is in full command of his brain and body. There are brain-damaged people out there. There are people with all sorts of mental illness and handicaps who are being more and more mainstreamed. Well, guess what..they are on the bus...they are in the taverns etc. And we don't know what the biological breaking point is of other men..those of very low IQ and social status perhaps who are not going to get anything voluntary from anybody.

So put me down as one who thinks women need to go back to what they have generally always done, and that is to dress and act responsibly and see to it that anyone that they can influence is influenced in that direction, rather than telling them they can wear anything and do anything and nothing should happen. Of course they should be able to..I should be able to walk into a yard of pit bulls and not get bitten..I do not deserve to get bitten...but I need to use some sense. mg