The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #127384   Message #2841260
Posted By: Lox
16-Feb-10 - 04:48 PM
Thread Name: BS: 'Some rape victims should take blame'- ??
Subject: RE: BS: Some rape victims should take blame
"Don't leave the PARTIALLY out. It's part of the premise for the original hypothesis."

Gnu, with all due respect, this is utter bollocks.

I've gone home with drunk female friends and not so immediate acquaintances before and they've been drukn and flirtatious.

My instinct has been to flirt back, as male and female friends do sometimes when they have a healthy friendship, but ultimately to justify their trust in me and get them home and tucked in.

Sometimes I'll even spend the night in the same bed and nothing will happen.

At no point did i think "look at her, she's pissed and asking for it, a good raping would be justified here"

I think the snooty judges here are as guilty of objectifying women and forgetting that they are people with feelings who need love and care, as the rapists are.


Taking somebody home with you is not the same as signing a contract.

I would hate to think that Gnu or anyone else might say to a girl, who said to him "can we not, I don't feel like it anymore" that he was sorry love, but now you're in the ring you can expect what you signed up for.

In fact, sexuality is much more complex than that anyway.

To really enjoy sex, there needs to be a mutual spark.

If a guy is able to ignore that a woman is not enjoying it and shag her anyway, then he has a problem.

Again, this is not reflective in any way on the victim.


Women - and men for that matter - Have the right to change their mind and anyone who says otherwise is condoning coercion and violence.