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Thread #127208   Message #2841629
Posted By: Teribus
17-Feb-10 - 01:15 AM
Thread Name: BS: Torture in a civilised world
Subject: RE: BS: Torture in a civilised world
Just tell me Royston and a simple yes or no will do for an answer:

In the link I posted does the following passage appear as part of the response:

It needs to be understood in this context that at the end of the mission of Muhammad when God, in his absolute Knowledge, knew that those who were rejecting faith were not rejecting because they had any confusion with regards to it, rather they were rejecting out of mere arrogance and pride, He commanded Muslims to slay down those 'infidels' from amongst the polytheists. The Jews and Christians, on the other hand, because they belonged to monotheistic faith, were to be fought against until they became politically subservient to Muslims. This was done after providing both the idolaters and the people of the Book (Jews and Christians) sufficient time to understand whether Muhammad was a real messenger of God and the message he brought forward was actually the message from God.

Now as it is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel Royston, please answer the following:

So as one of the people of the book I can be fought against (?? - combatted? killed??) until I am politically subservient to Muslims (any particular one or just all of them?)


And the following by me still holds good.

Bollocks, if any body wants to fight me on the instruction of their mullah, immam or ayatollah because of what they interpret as being written in their book about their imaginary friend then they had best come loaded for bear.

I have never seen enraged groups of Christians or Jews out in the streets rioting just on the word some prat uttered at the weekly religious service. At any religious service I have never been commanded to chant for the death of a people (In Tehran it happens every week and has happened every week for the last 31 years).

I am accused by CarolC of taking the actions of a minority and applying their words, actions and interpretations of their religion to all followers of that religion. Then she herslf refers me to certain Christian religious sects.

As for those religious sects CarolC:

Still if that is what you are reading over there (NAB & NLT Old Testament Passages) in the the home of the brave and the land of the free, the land of Hollywood and Walt Disney then its no bloody wonder that so many of you are so Fucked Up.

The pillocks who jumped onboard the Mayflower should have hung around over this side for a few centuries to see how it all turned out, on the religious stakes we seem to come off with the slightly saner outlook on life.


The OT during instruction we were told was the story of what went before, nothing more, and the passages are stories of things that happened to the people from whom Jesus of Nazareth came.

Oh and if ever I am going to kill anybody CarolC, I would need a damn sight better reason than one that would be given to me based on religion or by the irrational rantings of the likes of youself.

Oddly enough in that link I posted, the common perception of the Muslim faith is as illustrated in the Question, that has not come to be by deliberate misinformation put about by anybody else. It is a perception arrived at by observation which gives rise to:

All Muslims are not terrorists; but all terrorists nowadays seem to be Muslims"