how do you mean sinsull? we might have gone round in circles a few times, but i feel that something has come from this, a deeper understanding maybe. or maybe i am just feeling alot less angry than i did yesterday.
although we are all entilted to our points of veiw, it is important to try and understand, even if we can't agree.

i can see where lizzie is coming from even though i think she is totally wrong. the differencr today is that she has mafde an effort to explain in a non judgmental and non accusing type of way.

for me, there can be no blame what so ever on the victim of rape.

i assumme the lust of both men and women run along the same lines. one has a bit that sticks out and one has one that goes in. i would have thought the urges are exactly the same?

the other point i would like to steal from my favourite books is that the human species is the only one that uses force for sex.
in nature it is always the females choice, the male can try and try but can only penetrate if the female consents.

take care all
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