"lizzie, you and i obviously know very different men!!!!!!!!!!"

I am extremely fortunate, jade, I have never been treated badly, sexually, by any man.

But one of my friends hanged himself after he was wrongly accused of having a relationship with one of his female pupils. I've stated that before. She was miffed that her affection was not being returned in any way at all, and so she made her accusation, withdrawing it later. Paul ended up taking his own life.

It has made me think very differently about many things.

Her actions set in action a chain of events that I'm sure she never once gave thought to, or ever intended to happen. He was the victim of those actions, not her.



"i was going to go into yet another real life, what i have seen senario, but to be truthful, i am that upset with you making excuses for men to not control themselves, i am NEARLY lost for words."

I make excuses for no-one, because everyone, at the end of the day, is ultimately responsible for their own actions.

Men should control themselves, and the vast majority do, **but so should women.** That's all I'm trying to get across. (And again, I am NOT talking about the kind of rapes that have happened to people in this thread.)

I'm not putting blame on to ANY person in this thread either, I'm talking hypothetically, that's all...trying to point out that sometimes it is not just women who become the victims, because if you have an unscrupulous or vindictive woman, and yes, they do exist, just as those types of personality do in the male population too, then men can also be in danger.

Devil's Advocate, that's all..