The thread title suggests the pope is talking sense....
Some suggest that the pope has a right talk about what he wants, or his own interests.
Some say that most RCs dont pay much attention to the popes public statements anyway...and they do not represent those of the RC church, or the faithful.
Some say that they are loyal RCs have faith in the church, but that they ignore pope statements that are inconvenient to their lifestyle or are not a requirement of the RC church or Vatican teachings ...yet they accept the pope is Christ's (aka Gods) only representative on Earth.

Some say that since the pope (with human frailities) is God's representative, guided by Christ's (aka the holy ghost or spirit) that he is infallible on some matters....except on matters that the church faithful do not as a group like and deem that he is not infallible on (note that just how he is infallible changes through time, and is not fixed, as other matters, such as his interpretation natural law, may be).

Some say that they support women and gay rights in society, but not inside thr RC church. Some say that you have to take a modern view of the RC church, but accept that a good part of the theology is fixed in time.


Well I could go on and on....but I won't.

I once heard that you can't have it both ways....but the RC church and its faithful seem to prove this wrong.

I am a Christian. I respect anyone of faith and applaud their conviction and beliefs...though I may not share them.

RCs often complain that anyone that challenges their beliefs are anti RC or anti Christian...even to those who are just as faithful to what they see as Christ's (aks God's ) messages to humans.

Well...noone is going to challenge your faith or beliefs if you keep them to yourself. But, when you, or your church's representative (aka Christs only representative on Earth) go around agressively preaching your perspective to others....as if it is the only way, and expect immunity from societies laws or governments...expect others to challenge you. And, expect others to bring to light your internal weaknesses and contridictions.

If you want a recent non religeon example of that....look at Tiger woods.