Very sensible comment. So why insist on lumping them all together by condemning the whole 'edukashun' system?

But my point is not about the good and bad, it is about the average or norm. I GENERALY ask shop assitants for advice because GENERALY they know what they are talking about. Just in the same way as MOST teachers are GENERALY good. Neither excelent or terrible. Just getting on with the job and making a pretty good job of it while some people insist that 'they' are ruining our children and not making the distinction between good and bad!

Sorry but there are too many polar opposites here for me to make any sense of what is being said.

DeG