"None of us know what they saw in their lives. What kind of role models they had or what they may have seen and had done to them as kids."

Excellent, Callingbird! We will never get anywhere fighting violent crime until we look for the causes of it and for ways to keep those causes from recurring.

I think there are three little words that are the most beautiful in our language. Not 'I love you' but 'I don't know.'