Well. I have to, to some extent anyhow, take back my words from early on this thread. My wife got in a crunch 10 days ago. Nobody hurt, but just enough to total our Camry. I started shopping, including the possibility of a newer Camry. But then the reports stated showing up of people who got the supposed fix, and still had the problem. If we had just been thinking about an update, I would have held on a little to wait for a clear resolution of the problem. But we couldn't sit here waiting. We now have a Ford Fusion, '07 with only 23k miles and a clean carfax report, at a very decent price.