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Thread #128206   Message #2869880
Posted By: The Sandman
23-Mar-10 - 07:04 AM
Thread Name: What is the future of folk music?
Subject: RE: What is the future of folk music?
I will explain why I dont like jim morays inclusion of rap in the middle of lucy wan.
I pointed out that Jims diction was good,but I could not understand what the rapper was saying,so in my opinion it is a pointless exercise,if jim had changed from singing to speaking the song,I am sure I would have understood as Jims diction is good.
I feel that the idea is not necessarily a bad one,but that the rap part was not cdone as well as it could have been.
RALPHIE,I do not care whether Jim Moray is the brother of the king of Timbuctoo,I am explaining why I think this particular experimentation does not work,that does not mean that I am against experimentation.
are you in favour of experimentation for the sake of it regardless of the outcome?.Idid not diss Jim Morays singing although I stated that I preferred Martin Carthys version,that does not mean his singing is bad it is not.
what I think is poor is the inclusion of something[of which the diction is poor]in the middle of an otherwise fairly good version,what is the point?is there any cultural link between the two? if Icant understand the words it becomes just a distraction and one that does not seem to have much musical connectiion,therfore it [imo]makes the song something ridiculous.
"And if I'm accompanying a singer, performing an "old" song (avoiding the Trad/Folk spat) and I decide to put a screaming hammond organ solo in the middle of it, that I am therefore making "a ridiculous interruption"quote Ralph Jordan.
in my opinion if you did what you described in the middle of the outlandish knight it would be a ridiculous interruption because it interferes wtith the flow and the story of the song,in a song such as the streams of lovely nancy ,I do not think it as important.
however you have missed my point,which is why include something the majority of which is indecipherable.,and which appears to me to have no cultural connection.
it is rather like eating jam with caviar,,both are pleasant on their own,but when taken together are a gastronomic catastrophe, admirable for its eccentric qualities but little else.
Ihave geard other perfprmances by JimMoray he is agood singer ,but his version of Lucy Wan [because of the rap] does not work for me.