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Thread #128220 Message #2871047
Posted By: Steve Gardham
24-Mar-10 - 05:39 PM
Thread Name: The Advent and Development of Chanties
Subject: RE: The Advent and Development of Chanties
Shanty term origins.
Letter by John Lyman in MM vol 38 (1952) answering the query of 1911.
This query asked for info. on the source of the word and the date of its first use for a working song afloat. the NED's oldest example is 1869 but Capt Whall recalled its use from his first going to sea in 1861. in vol 9 of MM L G Carr laughton traced the development of shantying to the Gulf cotton trade in the period 1830-60, but was forced to accept rather unconvincing connexions with shanty in the sense of a crudely built house or tavern as the origin of the term.