Luther, Hearme use the same JavaScript file (vc.js) which is located at thier web site and this is the code that all versions of Voice creator (Aines site, the link you gave, etc. point to).

Hearme check the browser type, checking for Netscape useing the following code: if( navigator.appName == "Netscape" )....

If you are using Netscape, the Embed tag is used for the plugin and if you are using IE, the Object tag is used. As you said, one can question HTML being standard but Hearme do in fact cater for this one.

I am afraid that I agree with your thoughts re MS and Netscape and IMO, IE is the superior browser.

Jon