Lox and Peter, you are both trying to change the perspective of this debate.
To lift a people out of poverty and raise their life chances by such an amount does take decades, or even generations.
What has been achieved in both places is equal rights, an outlawing of discrimination and full participation.
We were only talking about the relative merits of the two governments in Ireland in the 70s.
PIRA deemed it worth the death of thousands and the impoverishment of the whole Province to switch them.
I regard that as tragically misguided and against the will of even most Nationalists.
More was achieved in USA in a fraction of the time without one bombed sreet or murder.