I dunno'.......WHen you have repeatedly tries good arguments and logic and it becomes obvious nothing you say is even willing to be discussed, you can either drop out of the non-conversation or have a good time with some jackass. I tried many years ago with Conrad for instance, but now I just enjoy the abuse and so does he!

I don't think I have ever been abusive to Doug........While I think him often wrong, I respect that he has a reasonable thought process and sometimes starts from a point far different than mine. That's life and good discussion.......plus Doug never gets abusive or "know it all" himself.

Ichy's history here is very much one of "You poor deluded fools." You start a conversation that way and/or with some "out where the buses don't run" blather, than it is unlikely anyone will come out well.

Spaw