Mick: you make my point. Both the Republicans and Democrats us the same strategy to block legislation, or to approve appointees. Do you know how many judges Bush appointed who were blocked by the Democrats from receiving up or down votes? Lots.

If the rules are to apply to the Republicans, as you propose, they should also be applied to the Democrats. That's only fair.

As to controlling a caucus, well, that's up to the party's leadership isn't it?

DougR