We haven't eaten touched on the sadistic stuff..Christian Brothers etc.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7082705.ece
An article about a priest, now a Bavarian bishop, who not only beat girls in an orphanage, but yanked them out of bed. Now, what is a male doing in a girls' dormitory.

I keep saying, unless we see this problem, or this mass of related problems, as endemic, there can be no healing.

And there can be no doubt that dealing with ornery teenagers can try th patience of a saint. maybe some people were called to priesthood or religious life but not called to work with teenagers or children.

We have to cut through the shame factor too. I am for naming names if guilt is absolutely sure. It would of course shame all of us, ad there are things I have done that I wouldn't want put on a billboard, but I think we have to do it.