The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #18820 Message #2879164
Posted By: GUEST,Daniel
03-Apr-10 - 10:57 PM
Thread Name: Origin: Rough and tough and hard to bluff
Subject: RE: Origin: Rough and tough and hard to bluff
I'm not sure of the source of the phrase, but I may be able to shed some more light on Erv Kasian. In the early 1970s I lived in a rural part of north central Illinois and whenever we took a field trip into Chicago, the school would hire a charter bus company to drive us. Every time we started the trip, the bus driver (who was always the same guy) would tell the exact joke mentioned at the beginning of the thread. It makes me wonder if the bus driver was Erv. BTW-Is this thread really 10 years old?