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Thread #128156   Message #2879936
Posted By: Ed T
05-Apr-10 - 08:52 AM
Thread Name: BS: Clerical child abuse Part 94....
Subject: RE: BS: Clerical child abuse Part 94....
"an acknowledgement that most Catholic laity and priests and bishops are as outraged as everyone else about this scandal"

Likely not as outraged by the victims and their families?

I suspect that the scandal had a number of impacts:
1) Outrage and distrust in the RC heirachy by many members of the RC church
2) Outrage and concern about the local financial impact....and a focus on dealing with the new financial reality.
3) Embarassment and reduced sense of trust by the laity...some who have left or have looser ties with or ttust in   the central RC organization....this could stimulate significant future change.
4) Attempts to save the brand, demonize those questioning the RC organization (including the media) ....much like defense lawyers attempt to convince the public that what happened , could not have happened, or was really not representative or all that bad ....read some of the defenses on the web and by the Vatican.
5) As to the priests and bishops....I suspect they either had their suspicians that this was happening or knew it was happening all along...though the magnitute may have been an eye opener. I suspect there is embarassment by priests or nbishops who were not involved or complacent (likely to varying degrees).

Joe O makes reference a case of a local compassionate reaching out to those who were violated by priests. While what he describes seems like a genuine attempt to help victims...I have not seen similar actions where I live, and I suspect it is an anomoly, rather than a reflection of what occured in most other locals.   

As to the discussion of whether good people do good things...it's a no brainer...yes, they do....and they do so regardless of what organization they are affiliated with or bound by. Yes, there area vast number of good priests and bishops....and maybe events will separate the good from the bad....as its hard to believe that some guilty folks and those complacient are not still in power positions within the RC church heirachy.

A more meaningful discussion would be did the Vatican, the RC structure and priests and bishops doing to help victims? I do not feel they have stood up to the challenge....and possibly are still far from the mark....beyond saying we are sorry....which likely rings hollow when they are still in the defensive and denial mode.

I have noted that in the past few weeks a few bishops and priests have broken ranks with the Vatican and have said some good things....expressing their personal outrage and remorse....and committment to help heal those violated and rebuild a stronger church....none of the defensive bunk. That is a small sign of rebuilding trust.....versus what is happing with the Vatican.