Yer right, LH... Seein' as you seem to agree with Sawz about lots of stuff maybe you could get him to see a competent thearapist about his obsession of playing fact-checker-from-Hell with just about everything I say... It's become an obsesssion with him not only here but at least at one other website where he has stalked me... Actually, I'm not sue if he stalked me from that one to yhere or vice-versa... I am, however, 99% sure that he was also "Old Guy" and "Dickey" from the style of the posts and certtain things he has confronted me about that were addressed to those two handles...

As for a "cordial discussion" about "The Surge"... Wonder why the righties don't want to talk about it in any way that might show that they have been beating progressives over the head with "The Surge Bat" for a long time now but refuse to talk about what "The Surge" really was... Maybe they don't know??? I explained the components of it above... Amos threw in the "Awakening" aspect...

Why can't we have that "cordial discussion" about what it reallly was??? Well, I'll tell you why... Because it flys in the face of what the right wants people to think... The have neatly revised history to their liking and don't want that neatness disturbed...

B~