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Thread #128619   Message #2885794
Posted By: Teribus
13-Apr-10 - 04:21 PM
Thread Name: BS: Video of US Killing of Reuters Reporters
Subject: RE: BS: Video of US Killing of Reuters Reporters
at 03:56 picks it up and move over to cross the street to look round the corner of the building

NOTHING WAS AIMED ROUND THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING

NOTHING WAS PANNED ROUND THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING

What had the Reuter's men been invited there to do?? Now apply that to what was about to happen had the insurgents had their way and they had been allowed to put their plan into operation. The insurgents main priority would be what??

A. Good firing position with the RPG

OR

B. Great camera angles

Having answered that question then ask yourself who is it that needs to check the view down the street the approaching patrol will use, the cameraman or the gunner.

Now Target 2. The Van

1. Nobody who was travelling in the van was ever traced indicating that the van in all probability was stolen.

2. There was no family outing, no Dad driving around innocently with his children

3. Check the video all you want and tell me how close the Bradley AFV's and Humvees had to get before you saw them on camera, yet you can hear both pilots talking about this column of vehicles approaching and moving through the area long, long before you see them. If they could see those vehicles moving they would have undoubtedly spotted a van driving about, particularly as there was no other civilian traffic observed moving throughout the entire incident.

4. The above only leads to the probable conclusion that the van was parked in a nearby street. Discounting the Dad driving around innocently with his children as were they real they would have been easily traceable via the van and the remiander of their family and friends would have reported them missing (none of which happened). That would mean that having witnessed the initial engagement and observed the wounded man crawling half way along that block away from where the bullets had struck and noting that all firing had stopped, the driver of the van would have to get into the van, start it and drive to the spot where the man lay. The man the driver talks to as he pulls up indicates where he thinks the firing came from (at this point they all think that it is ground fire) and he is indicating that the van should not go near the crossroads where the initial attack took place (That is why the van was attempting to turn round).

5. Why did they not show any interest in picking up weapons? Because they never got a chance to, because where the weapons lay they thought was still within the firing arc of whatever weapon it was that had killed their colleagues.

6. Did the pilots or weapons system operators in the helicopters know what was in that van? No they did not, what they did know and what they did report was that it had arrived on the scene very quickly and the occupants were removing evidence from the scene (wounded man)

7. OK how should this wounded man have been viewed? Had he been wearing his Blue PRESS Flak-Jacket he would in all probability still have been alive today. But he wasn't was he, so the judgement of the controller had to make was, is this somebody important to the insurgents? Can I let this man escape? If we hold fire on these activities what else will they remove from the scene? The Fire Controllers Rules Of Engagement allowed him to prevent that van and its occupants from doing what it was they appeared to be doing and he gave the order to engage.

Target 3: The Building under construction

1. People were seen leaving the area surrounding the site of the initial attack by the helicopters, some of them armed.

2. These people, some armed, were seen entering a corner building that appeared to be under construction and unused. In all six men entered that building.

3. The Fire Controller gave the helos permission to engage that target with "Hellfire" Missiles and the Helos fire three missiles into the building, the effects of this fire are to date unknown.

Now compared to all that, a story about gung-ho helicopter pilots deliberately shooting up a bunch of innocent civilians including two journalists and two children and then trying to cover it up. Just does not add up to the evidence available.