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Thread #126347 Message #2887890
Posted By: John Minear
16-Apr-10 - 08:52 AM
Thread Name: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Subject: RE: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
A followup note on the "Santy Anno" song that I discussed above. I've looked again at all of the sources that I have with printed tunes for "Santiana". I don't have access to Davis & Tozer or to Robinson (THE BELLMAN). I cannot find any version of "Santiana" with the more rousing tune and chorus of "Santy Ano" in any collection of chanties before Hugill's SEVEN SEAS (1961). All of the other printed collections have the slow, mournful, modal, minor tune that is "traditionally" associated with this song, and which I would think is more suited for the work for which it was used.
This would make the version collected by John Lomax from J.M. "Sailor Dad" Hunt in 1935 the first time this tune saw print. The song was "in the air" literally by the time Hugill published his book. Where did he get his version? *He does not say.* But apparently he like it because he sings it on his Mystic CD. Since Hugill does not mention the Hunt/Lomax version, I am going to suggest that he may have picked up this tune from the emerging folk revival. I look forward to some further discussion on this.
The "traditional" tune of "Santiana" has always reminded me of the earlier tune for "High Barbary" in the feel of it. I'm not suggesting that the tunes are otherwise related. We do know that the "High Barbary" song was put into a major key and speeded up and supposedly used as a chanty. This seems to have happened in the "American" context much later on in the 19th or early 20th century to "Barbaree". While the "Santy Ano" tune does get speeded up and becomes "juanty" it continues in a more minor key. But, and here I don't know what I am talking about, it seems to have moved from an older "modal" feel to a much, much more modern "minor" feel. The folk revival loved minor keys, and throwing in the odd minor chord to traditional songs. There is also the business of what the use of the guitar did to the old modal melodies. And what happened to a lot of "mountain" songs as they became "bluegrassed" - they were speeded up and moved into a major key. Given the fact that "Santy Ano" was collected in *Marion, VA*, I wonder about all of these possibilities. There, that ought to be a broad enough and open enough take to invite some comment.