Listen, my friends. There is no need for this thread to descend to where it seems to be headed. And Bud, I don't believe that Fionn is picking up the "Orange Ball". I took his post to simply mean that there is more than enough in either sides religious leaders to make some arguments about hypocrisy. The simple fact is that this isn't about religion. It is about hypocrisy, civil rights, and economics. Let us ignore this lad, as he seeks to fan the flames of division. The more we respond to him, in any way that gives him credibility, the more we validate him in his own mind. Let us respond to one another in a civil way, and ignore those whose motives are clearly to sow seeds of division. A spirited debate is one of the things that this place is about. Flaming and namecalling is not.

All the best,

Mick