Estimate is the best that anyone can do, T

While that may well be the case IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY OTHER INFORMATION. It most certainly IS NOT the best that anyone can do in the situation where it involves bodies piling up on the streets.

- People are missed and inquiries are made, the fact that they are missing is reported.

- People know where bombs, cruise missiles, etc land and explode. they know depending upon location, time of day or night, who is working or living at that location and then inquiries are made into the well being of those people who should have been there. A search of the location will reveal bodiee, body parts, or human remains.

- Those wounded in any such attack can verify who was and who was not present.

- Hospital mortuaries register bodies brought in

- Hospitals register who is brought in for treatment

There is a whole raft of information and sources to define and quantify those killed. And groups such as Iraq Body Count, UN and the Iraqi Ministries have done a far more thorough job of this than John Hopkins "batch sampled" ESTIMATE, especially the Iraqi Authorities as they have had to bury the dead and figure they give is nowhere near the number the John Hopkins Study is talking about.

Same was true with the figures bandied about for Dresden, first there were wild propaganda claims about 250,000 to 350,000. The Gestapo at the time made it betweeb 18,000 and 25,000 a group specially commissioned after the war put the number at between 25,000 and 30,000.

Little or no conjecture when it comes to official Iraqi figures, as I said before they buried them and compiled the reports of those killed and wounded in incidents and those who later died in hospital. Those numbers are not ESTIMATES, they are about as FACTUAL as you can get them.

Now you said that US forces had killed over 1 million Iraqi's - PROVE IT.

PS Bobert If you cannot prove it, then just say so and stop using figures that you cannot substantiate and stop wittering on about it.