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Thread #126347   Message #2895517
Posted By: John Minear
27-Apr-10 - 05:57 PM
Thread Name: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
Subject: RE: From SF to Sydney - 1853 Shanties Sung?
I found Hugill's version of "Goodbye, My Love, Goodbye" late in the day yesterday. He doesn't say where it comes from. He does say, "Tozer and Colcord give a version, the former giving a set of very sentimental verses which I feel sure have been made up."(p.118/'61) The Colcord version comes straight out of Alden's article. I don't have the Tozer version and I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the one in THE CRUISER.

Hugill goes on to say, "C.F. Smith sees in it a resemblance to "Shallow Brown." Am I missing something here? I can't find any reference to this song in C.F. Smith's A BOOK OF SHANTIES, nor does she give "Shallow Brown." What is Hugill talking about here?   

I also wanted to refer up thread to this note:

thread.cfm?threadid=126347&messages=596#2893970

There is a reference there to:

"Another very pretty and pathethic tune began with words that seemed to promise something sentimental -

    "Fare you well, and good-by, oh, oh!
    I'm goin' away to leave you, oh, oh!"

This is from Fanny Kemble's JOURNAL OF A RESIDENCE ON A GEORGIAN PLANTATION IN 1838-1839. This sounds like it is connected to either "Shallow Brown" or "Goodbye, My Love, Goodbye," or some predecessor, since this is a much earlier date. It is in the same source that mentions "Jenny Gone Away" and the phrase from a "wailing chorus" that went "Oh! My massa told me, there's no grass in Georgia." This was a lamentation about the threat and worry about being sold away to Georgia.