"is a standard debating tactic of the left"

Of course, with your omniscience, you KNOW I 'am leftist' - you know me not from a lump of wood! How insulting! and you are found out for "attributing to me views that I myself do not hold" - thus I accuse YOU of 'being leftist"!!!


"No-one was murdered"

Ah - you see, that's why the USA refuses to join the International body that purses War Crimes - murder by another name!

"Care to provide some sort of explanation as to why wikileaks did not feel the need to explain all that"

Why should they? They've got YOU!

"the sound of gun fire 30mm cannon are rather loud"
And the driver also has your Superman hearing - as the chopper was oooo HOW FAR AWAY in the middle of the other gunfire you allege was being heard at the same time?

"Foolestroupe and the majority posting to this thread, some who openly admit that they could not watch the video coverage swallowed the lie that US troops had deliberately murdered civilians on that afternoon in Baghdad on the 12th July 2007"

Well now you are telling porkies about me mate - just WHO posted the transcript - the films have been shown on Aussie TV more times that would know.

"the people shot were unarmed civilians"

You are obsessed with ONLY the initial engagement - which even the military guys on the ground WANTED (if you ARE going to fight wars the you HAVE to give 'covering fire' to your own troops dummy!) - but blind to the fact that even HE was sickened by the butchery of the people shot WHO were unarmed civilians (and children). As are those who are not inhuman - you cannot separate the 'legal' military engagement from the immediate subsequent war crime you applaud. It was a deliberate and separate (military approved) subsequent act to open up on the van.

ETHAN: Umm, however, personally, I don't feel that the attack on the van was warranted. It, it, it seemed more, it, I think that the people could have been deterred from doing what they were doing in the van by simply firing a few warning shots versus, um, completely obliterating the van and its occupants.